The obvious (dull) way: my $len = 0; $len < length and $len = length for @data; Subtler and somewhat faster: my $len = ""; $len ^= $_ for @data; $len = length $len; Any better ideas? -- Larry Rosler Hewlett-Packard Laboratories http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/ lr@hpl.hp.com ==== Want to unsubscribe from Fun With Perl? ==== Well, if you insist... Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to ==== fwp-request@technofile.org