perl5 is 5. So in the spirit of JAPH: for(0..3){print"Happy birthday ".(/2/?"dear perl5":"to you").(/3/?".":",")."\n"} Can anybody get it smaller... -- Richard@waveney.demon.co.uk ==== Want to unsubscribe from Fun With Perl? Well, if you insist... ==== Send email to <fwp-request@technofile.org> with message _body_ ==== unsubscribe