Re: [MacPerl-Porters] Need authoritative Apple refs for EOL == CR

[Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com>]

At 13.04 -0500 1999.03.01, Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>The consensus now appears to be this: XML does NOT require \n == \xA
>internally, but according to the spec an XML processor _must_ pass \xA out
>to an application, in place of \xD\xA or \xA. Despite the fact this is not
>so attractive for us on the MacOS side, I have to reluctantly concur with
>this interpretation, after really carefully re-reading the EOL handling
>section in the XML spec. (It sort of helps that Larry Wall pointed this
>out in the first place... :-))

I'm not sure I follow.  What is the consensus?  That XML::Parser should
return \xA, but that string methods should convert to \n?  Or that it
should indeed return \xA in string methods?


>So far the discussion has been quite reasonable (Larry appears to be
>supportive, in particular), but just today Tim Bray, who is directly
>responsible for this chunk of the spec, also joined in. He clearly is not
>aware that \n != \xA on MacOS, and I need a good, solid authoritative ref
>from Apple docs (more than one is even better) saying that the line
>terminator for Mac apps is a CR (\xD), which I can refer him to. I've
>looked at IM:Text, IM:Printing, IM:Files, searched on the Apple Developers
>site, and I can't find a thing, except one ancient Tech Note pertaining to
>A/UX <=> HFS file translations. So, help! :-)

Why doesn't he just take the word of everyone who obviously knows it to be
true?  How about a Mac program that prints the value of \n as its numeric
equivalent?  :)

I did some searching and could not find anything.  I will let you know if I do.

>P.S. I don't know about anybody else, but I have to sort of wonder what
>Apple is up to. Here's something as important as the XML spec, and one of
>the lead people working on it (Tim Bray), with specific responsibilities
>pertaining to the EOL issue, hasn't even been apprised that things are a
>little bit different over on Macs. Maybe Apple is thinking that it'll
>become a non-issue with MacOS X: I certainly hope that's not it, though.

Well, most people use CW for most stuff, so it doesn't matter for them,
since \n usually means \xA.

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