ok i'm doing some good work with mac perl. but.... how can i keep the funky charictors from showing up like the box. it shows up when i submit a form from the web it saves the submitted form in html format, it does this just fine but wherever you put a <return> in the submition macperl saves a box in the html form. could this have anything to do with /n being different on a mac? also.... when machttpd is posting a form retrived by a macperl script at the very bottom it gives me a diagnostic output telling me what it is or was trying to open. this is anoying and we don't want users seeing this. i'm using macperl 5.0.7r1m and machttp 2.0 power pc 7100/80 system 7.5.1 thanks Eric M. Mosher Student, Parkland College Champaign, Il.