I have been work with Perl on both my Mac and a Sun Workstation. The Unix Perl references the time epoch from Jan. 1, 1970, but MacPerl uses 1904. I've looked in the docs and faqs, but it does not tell me why? Any clues would be welcomed.... It keeps me up nights ;-) -- ************************************************************ Dr. Samuel D. Gasster (310)446-1617 (voicemail) (310)474-0206 (FAX) gasster@pacificnet.net ************************************************************