mima2@ca2.so-net.or.jp (Masataka Kashiwagi) writes: >unusbscribe > --------------------------- >$B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(B $BD+F|=PHG<R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(B ^[$B!!!!, indeed. I have unsubscribed Mr. Masataka, as I do with everyone requesting this in any form. However, I'm afraid his requests are part of an unpleasant pattern of sloppiness that I detect among some of our subscribers. The one and only way to unsubscribe from the list is to send a message to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch With the word "unsubscribe" in standard English spelling in the body of the message. Now, please allow for a few hours for the flow of messages to stop: By the time you unsubscribe, there are often a few messages queued in our mail daemon for delivery, and they will be delivered. If you still get messages 24 hours after your request, contact me personally <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch>. This is the GOOD way to unsubscribe. The UGLY way is to send the message to mac-perl@iis.ee.ethz.ch. This is actually caught by the mailing list server, so the message gets redirected to me, and I can unsubscribe the user manually. This is mildly annoying, as it costs me a minute or two, but nobody gets to see the message but me. However, what *really* annoys me is to misspell the message. The word is UNSUBSCRIBE it is *not* UNSBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCIBE, UNSUSBCIBE, or SIGNOFF or LOGOUT or AMEN or "drop me from the list". It is BAD to send a message like this to more than 800 people. Now, I can understand that a non-native speaker of English might occasionally misspell a word, but there is NO EXCUSE not to keep the subscription information. All of you subscribed here VOLUNTARILY. Supposedly the list was at one time of some use to you. I respect the fact that at some point it might stop being useful, but PLEASE do show some respect too, and make some effort to leave the list with as little noise & annoyance as possible. If you have a habit of trashing hotel rooms where you were a guest, join a rock band, not a mailing list. You got complete unsubscription information when you signed up. You will get another copy today. You could easily get a copy simply by following the URL to my homepage in each of my posts. MAKE AN EFFORT if you want to unsubscribe. Thanks. Matthias PS: I would like to use this opportunity to wish you all pleasant holidays and happy celebrations, whatever you might be inclined to celebrate in the next few weeks. PPS: At the same time, I would like to ask you *not* to send holiday greetings to the list, except as postscripts to real messages. And of course to refrain from engaging in meta-discussion about the list. Quod licet neeri, non licet bovi. ----- Matthias Neeracher <neeri@iis.ee.ethz.ch> http://www.iis.ee.ethz.ch/~neeri ``One shudders at the notion that the Internet could become the least common denominator -- where "decent" is defined by the Americans, and "politically correct" by the Chinese.'' -- Jacques Gaillot, Bishop of Partenia