The following: print 'Ord \r: ' . ord("\r") . "\n"; print 'Ord \n: ' . ord("\n") . "\n"; Yields: Ord \r: 10 Ord \n: 13 In MacPerl 5.1.5r4. This is obviously a little backwards. mark --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark F. Murphy, Director Software Development <mailto:markm@tyrell.com> Tyrell Software Corp <http://www.tyrell.com> PowerPerl(tm), Add Power To Your Webpage! <http://www.powerperl.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Member of Families Against Internet Censorship: rainbow.rmi.net/~fagin/faic ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch