Re: [MacPerl] We're all Macperlers on this bus...

[John Mignault <mignault@nytimes.com>]

On 6/17/98 at 2:17 AM, Jeff at MacTech <online@mactech.com> wrote:

>
>The corollary to this is that if you do need to look elsewhere, it's on
>comp.lang.perl.misc, which is quite hostile in tone, and very unfriendly
>to beginners. This just isn't a place I would recommend to anyone, even to
>lurk--at least if you are bothered by people being wantonly cruel to one
>another. (Sorry--I had to comment....)

I don't see it that way at all - rather, what I see is a number of people trying desperately to maintain some minimal s-to-n ratio on c.l.p.misc. I have seen Tom C. bend over backwards to help people who have obviously made some effort to find an answer to their question - it's the people who couldn't be bothered to even glance over the documentation who get savaged. How courteous is it to assume that someone else wants to write your program for free with no effort on your part? 

>I think this is how things should work. If people ask FAQs occassionally,
>then hey, that's life, it won't kill us--they're FAQs because they are,
>well, frequently asked.
 
And is also why lists of them get compiled - to avoid the waste of time and bandwidth used in answering the same questions over and over again.

>But it bums me
>out when someone stomps on someone else just for asking a question--it
>just promotes bad feelings and flame wars and divides the community, and
>wastes bandwidth far more than the original question. (Not that this
>happens much on this list, but on c.l.p.m, oh my....)

I've really never seen this happen on c.l.p.misc, as I stated above. What *I* hate about c.l.p.misc is how s/n has been driven so low by "my CGI form doesn't work. Please send answers via e-mail, as I don't read the list very often." THAT is rude and arrogant in my book.

>Jeff Clites                Online Editor           http://www.MacTech.com/
>online@MacTech.com         MacTech Magazine
>__________________________________________________________________________

J
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