maybe I'm being lazy, but using mac-perl 5.1.9rv, where are the modules for using Mac::Windows Mac::QuickDraw Mac::Events or are these part of the mpw thing thanks for any help Mark Cantrell -- Its reassuring to know that if you behave strangely enough, society will take full responsibility for you. ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch