Last time I looked at Stanford's site it was under the development area. Try going to http://wuarchive.wustl.edu and following the systems/mac/infomac link. You should be able to find it. If not - let me know and I will go look for it again. I downloaded the GNU C version a couple of years back and read through the documentation. Since I had an ETO CD with MPW on it I tried compiling it. Seemed to work ok at the time. Has something changed since then? Like a new version they haven't given certification to? Let me know. Thnaks! :-) ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch