>Ah, so I need to be learning AppleEvents more than AppleScript. (I feel like >I'm slowly closing in on enlightment.) My next question: what is the best and >most gentle way to learn AppleEvents (realizing they might not be the same)? Actually, IMHO, you should first learn the basics of AppleScript. Any good reference on AppleEvents themselves would be rather cryptic otherwise. I have spent quite a bit of time with AS and I find it very useful in many ways. I would agree with the general consensus that it is a poorly formed language and extremely frustrating to use, but has such widespread use (believe it or not) that Apple has been convinced to continue its development. Most of the frustration comes from poor or entirely missing application implementation documentation (MacPerl included--sorry, Matthias) and a confusing object reference model. It is much easier to use the Script Editor for recording (where possible) and testing, using an AE capture utility to see the gritty details. AE itself is nothing like a programming language per se, and I have found seeing what AS produces what AE's helps a long way in learning the AIC model. Alex ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch