Sorry I've been away from my computer the last few days and have not had a chance to thank every one who responded to my posting. Vicki, I did go back and look at the book more closely and did find the passage, I'm blind. I used Alan's password module and a few other things I found in the book during a second, and third reading, to complete the job Doug Spore Doug Spore "Nothing can be made fool proof, because fools are so ingenious" Anonymous ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch