As far as having alternative programming languages for the Mac goes, I'd really like to know what's out there in Open Source. Here's a starting point; if folks will send me info, I'll summarize and re-post... * GCC I don't see a port listed for Mac OS, but I've heard of one... C/C++/Objective-C * MOPS (aka Mike's Object-oriented Programming System) http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/mops.html Forth, Neon, and Smalltalk hybrid * Forth No Open Source version??? * Perl http://www.ptf.com/macperl * Tcl/Tk http://www.scriptics.com/software/download.html * Neon * Python ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/jack/python/mac, http://www.python.org * Squeak (Smalltalk) http://squeak.cs.uiuc.edu/ -r -- Rich Morin: rdm@cfcl.com, +1 650-873-7841, http://www.ptf.com/~rdm Prime Time Freeware: info@ptf.com, +1 408-433-9662, http://www.ptf.com MacPerl: http://www.ptf.com/macperl, http://www.ptf.com/ptf/products/MPPE MkLinux: http://www.mklinux.apple.com, http://www.ptf.com/ptf/products/MKLP ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch