Re: Whence MacPerl (wasRe: [MacPerl] Mac/MacPerl users but not mac-specific)

["Paul J. Schinder" <schinder@pobox.com>]

On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:32:10PM +0900, robinmcf@altern.org wrote:
} Vicki Brown wrote:
} >
} >I swear, that's it.  We are all Mac/Perl users on this bus. I'm tired
} >of "you use a Mac and you use Perl but non-MacPerl-specific questions
} >don't belong here".
} 
} I have to agree with Vicki here and add a couple of points, but before I do
} I'd just like to stress I have been pleasantly surprised to see a great
} deal of tolerance shown by the listmembers, especially with regards to
} newbie and off topic postings.
} 
} 1) you can't take the Mac or the Perl out of MacPerl - the other  channels
} (which shall remain nameless)for getting together with other Perl users
} (platform regardless) means having to deal with large egos who want Perl
} elevated to the status of Religion (quite possibly linked to the fact they
} make a livings as Perl Consultants).

Really?  Name one.  Maybe a few news: URL's showing them tossing their
inflated egos around would be nice.  The only person that I can think
of recently that should even come close to offending the easily
offended is Abigail on c.l.p.m, and I agree with what she's doing
there and hope she can keep up the good work.

} 
} 2) The Perl Journal doesn't strictly limit itself to discussing Perl
} syntax, bug reports, revisions, conflicts - why should the MacPerl mailing
} list?

Well, duh, maybe because it's the MacPerl mailing list?  Because the
charter limits it to discussions about MacPerl?  I am pretty tolerant
of off topic postings here, and even participate in some, but asking
about fork() here is clearly over the line.  (Especially since there's
all sorts of boilerplate code lying around, and the discussion in the
Camel is more than adequate, and c.l.p.m exists.)

} Granted a mailing list isn't a magazine, but I have enjoyed the
} recent breadth of topics (including the discussion about OS X) and
} personally I don't mind downloading 20+ emails per session (I've been on
} hyperactive mailinglists where the figure ran into the hundreds per 24
} hours). In the same vein I don't think  Apple Script, Toolbox, WWW, XS, or
} any of the other proposed "splinter" lists generate enough traffic to merit
} an entire mailing list all to themselves - at least not if they are based
} around MacPerl which is why I subscribed to the MacPerl list in the first
} place - I want to know ALL about using MacPerl on the Mac and that includes
} the fact that in the greater  Perl universe I keep running into Un*x.

Granted, and you won't stop seeing that here, since by it's roots Perl
is associated with Unix.  But as Matthias said, there's evidence that
people get driven away by off topic postings.

So have the appropriate amounts of fun with the new lists when you get
them going.  Personally, I subscribe to three Perl specific lists
already and many others beside (how's netatalk going, Vicki?), so I
probably won't be joining in.

} 
} 
} 

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Paul Schinder
schinder@pobox.com

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