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MacPerl-Digest V1 #37
MacPerl-Digest Thursday, April 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 037
[MacPerl] Redirecting STDERR
Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
[MacPerl] mkpath problem
[MacPerl] w3mir
[MacPerl] ANNOUNCE: OpenScript 1.5.1 and MacPerl
Re: [MacPerl] What are MacPerl's capabilities
Re: [MacPerl] Redirecting STDERR
Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
Re: [MacPerl] mkpath problem
Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
Re: [MacPerl] What are MacPerl's capabilities
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:37:33 -0500
From: Robert Pollard <robpoll1@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [MacPerl] Redirecting STDERR
Hey guys,
This command which is actually an example in a book doesn't work. I
don't know much about MacPerl so I don't know what options I have.
open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:Messages');
I thought it should open a window and send all error messages to the new
window. Now I can't get it to send the errors to the MacPerl window
with the command:
open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:MacPerl');
Anyone have an idea???
TIA!!!
Robert Pollard
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 99 16:00:37 -0700
From: Brian McNett <webmaster@mycoinfo.com>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
> Sorry, but I couldn't resist rewriting it using Mail::Sendmail. It's
> shorter and will also give you clear error messages if needed, do Mime
> quoted-printable encoding for you, etc...
I LIKE this list. You send out some code, and it comes back IMPROVED!
Nifty little sample there, Milivoj.
- --Brian
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:58:38 -0500
From: "Muggli, Ricardo T. (CCC)" <rtmuggli@carlsoncraft.com>
Subject: [MacPerl] mkpath problem
Does anyone here know how to get mkpath to work correctly using MacPerl?
When I do something like
mkpath("test/anotherdir/bob", 0, 0777);
I simply get a folder named test/anotherdir/bob instead of the folder test
with another folder in it with a bob folder in that.
If I do
mkpath("test:anotherdir:bob", 0, 0777);
I get this error:
# Deep recursion on subroutine "File::Path::mkpath".File '10:MacPerl:lib:File:Path.pm'; Line 132Out of memory!Out of memory!Out of memory!
I'm doing this in part to get make_metrics from Font::AFM to work. Do I have
to replace the / in any path with : inside of the AFM.pm? If I do that I'l
also have to change the regex parts that truncate the / etc.
thanks,
Ricardo
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:57:49 +0200
From: Leif Halvard Silli <lhsilli@online.no>
Subject: [MacPerl] w3mir
Hello,
I want to be able to use the mirror program "W3MIR" which can be found at
<http://www.math.uio.no/~janl/w3mir/> Has anyone on this list made a
succesfull installation of w3mir ? The followin shall of course demonstrate
my complete lack of knowledge about Perl. But I still post it to find out
whether I have to learn a lot before coping with w3mir, or if this will
teach me the basics.....
I tried to follow the installation instructions on the w3mir page. I just
clicked on the make file.pl files in each module I had to install and ran
the make file.pl
One problem I had was with the libwww-perl-5.41. After runnin 'makefile.PL'
MacPerl reported that
>Checking for URI........... failed
># Can't locate URI.pm in @INC.
>File 'ljovuskahd:Desktop
>Folder:Mirrorprogram:libwww-perl-5.41:Makefile.PL'; Line 32
>
>The URI module must be installed. WWW without URIs would not
>be that great :-)
Then i tried to install the URI module version 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 and then
tried to install the libwww again, only to get the same result. Why ?
Installation of MIME-Base64-2.11 went fine. After this, without the URI, I
tried to install w3mir. Having run the makefile.PL MacPerl reported :
>Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good
Then comes the one million $ question: suppose everything above is ok, what
do I do now ? I tried tio click on the "w3mir.PL"-file, but the I got the
answer that the file was to big and tried to save it as a droplet getting
this result:
># Can't locate w3http.pm in @INC.
>File 'ljovuskahd:Desktop Folder:Mirrorprogram:w3mir.PL'; Line 198
># BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
>File 'ljovuskahd:Desktop Folder:Mirrorprogram:w3mir.PL'; Line 198
Saving as runtime gave failure in Line 5 instead. When I opened the file in
Alpha, I found nothing meaningful in Line 198, since it was a comment and
should therefore not affect w3mir ? But perhaps 'Line' has a more specific
meaning than I think here ?
A simple xplanation would be welcome...
Leif
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:16:16 +0200
From: Marco Bambini <marco@spiderlink.it>
Subject: [MacPerl] ANNOUNCE: OpenScript 1.5.1 and MacPerl
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What is OpenScript?
OpenScript is a plugin for every HTTP server compatible with W*API 1.1
(like WebSTAR, Quid Pro Quo, AppleShare IP or WebTen).
It allows you to include AppleScript, PERL and Frontier commands in your
HTML pages; you can also write nested commands so you can use Frontier
commands inside AppleScript scripts or AppleScript commands in Frontier
scripts (also with PERL).
How can I use it?
Just write the scripts inside the <Applescript>...</Applescript> or
<Usertalk>...</Usertalk> TAGs, OpenScript execute them and place the result
in your HTML page. You can also write nested TAGs in order to use the best
commands of both the scripting languages.
OpenScript allows you to create powerful dynamic pages with AppleScript,
MacPERL and Frontier!!
This version offers an updated documentation in order to use MacPerl
scripts inside your HTML page.
For more information, or to download a free, fully-functional demo of
OpenScript 1.5.1, visit http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/7185
(software section).
Thank you for your time,
Marco Bambini
Marco Bambini,
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/7185/
...writing software is like painting, dancing, singing ....
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<!doctype html public "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<html><head><style type="text/css"><!--
blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { margin-top: 0 ; margin-bottom: 0 }
--></style><title>ANNOUNCE: OpenScript 1.5.1 and
MacPerl</title></head><body>
<div><b>What is OpenScript?</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font color="#000000">OpenScript is a plugin for every HTTP
server compatible with W*API 1.1 (like WebSTAR, Quid Pro Quo,
AppleShare IP or WebTen).<br>
It allows you to include AppleScript, PERL and Frontier commands in
your HTML pages; you can also write nested commands so you can use
Frontier commands inside AppleScript scripts or AppleScript commands
in Frontier scripts (also with PERL).</font></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><b>How can I use it?</b></div>
<div><br>
Just write the scripts inside the
<Applescript>...</Applescript> or
<Usertalk>...</Usertalk> TAGs, OpenScript execute them
and place the result in your HTML page. You can also write nested
TAGs in order to use the best commands of both the scripting
languages.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><b>OpenScript allows you to create powerful dynamic pages with
AppleScript, MacPERL and Frontier!!</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>This version offers an updated documentation in order to use
MacPerl scripts inside your HTML page.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>For more information, or to download a free, fully-functional
demo of<br>
OpenScript 1.5.1, visit http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/N<span
></span>etwork/7185 (software section).<br>
<br>
Thank you for your time,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Marco Bambini</div>
<div><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Marco
Bambini,<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Ne<span
></span>twork/7185/<br>
<br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>...writing software is like
painting, dancing, singing ....</div>
</body>
</html>
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:31:33 -0400
From: Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] What are MacPerl's capabilities
At 17.35 -0400 1999.04.07, Bart Lateur wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:40:52 -0500, Robert Pollard wrote:
>>I have looked at MacPerl and read the manual to a point. I am impressed
>>so far but I have a couple of questions:
>>1) How far can MacPerl go in allowing me to use the Mac Toolbox to do
>>things like display a window with the ability to enter into fields any
>>information I want and store it in a database of my own design?
>
>Sorry but I have to disagree with Chris on this one. Methinks that
>MacPerl is a poor choice to build user-interfaces in. That stage is
>still, huh, "under construction".
Depends on what you are using it for. I use it regularly specifically for
the purpose above: data entry into fields to save in a file. I even have a
floating palette. I use it for my mp3tag program and my targzipme program,
and I never have any problems at all.
That is not to say it is easy to do, and not to say there aren't problems.
But it works, and for the most part, works well in many areas.
>Hmm... "front ends" is one thing I don't use Perl for. I'm not saying it
>can't be done, but it definitely isn't amongst MacPerl's stronger
>points. Yet. :-)
>
>Wel, just one guy's opinion.
Certainly it can use work, both in stability and ease of use. But it is
there, it is pretty powerful, and it works. The 5.2.0r4 release seems to
have made it much more stable, too.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:37:03 -0400
From: Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] Redirecting STDERR
At 14.37 -0400 1999.04.07, Robert Pollard wrote:
>Hey guys,
>
>This command which is actually an example in a book doesn't work. I
>don't know much about MacPerl so I don't know what options I have.
>
>open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:Messages');
>
>I thought it should open a window and send all error messages to the new
>window. Now I can't get it to send the errors to the MacPerl window
>with the command:
>
>open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:MacPerl');
>
>Anyone have an idea???
open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:MacPerl');
warn "foo";
open(STDERR, '>Dev:Console:Messages');
warn "foo";
This opens one window and sends text to it, then another. If you want text
to actually go the "real" MacPerl window, don't do anything, it goes there
by default.
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 04:04:04 +0200
From: Fritz Haase <fritz.haase@metronet.de>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
Brian McNett wrote:
> > Sorry, but I couldn't resist rewriting it using Mail::Sendmail. It's
> > shorter and will also give you clear error messages if needed, do Mime
> > quoted-printable encoding for you, etc...
>
> I LIKE this list. You send out some code, and it comes back IMPROVED!
> Nifty little sample there, Milivoj.
>
> --Brian
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:23:58 -0400
From: Chris Nandor <pudge@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] mkpath problem
At 18.58 -0400 1999.04.07, Muggli, Ricardo T. (CCC) wrote:
>Does anyone here know how to get mkpath to work correctly using MacPerl?
>When I do something like
>mkpath("test/anotherdir/bob", 0, 0777);
>I simply get a folder named test/anotherdir/bob instead of the folder test
>with another folder in it with a bob folder in that.
As you should. / is not a path separator on Mac OS.
>If I do
>mkpath("test:anotherdir:bob", 0, 0777);
>I get this error:
># Deep recursion on subroutine "File::Path::mkpath".File
>'10:MacPerl:lib:File:Path.pm'; Line 132Out of memory!Out of memory!Out of
>memory!
Try ":test:anotherdir:bob" instead. In Mac OS, something that looks like
"foo:" is a volume name, not a folder in the current directory.
>I'm doing this in part to get make_metrics from Font::AFM to work. Do I have
>to replace the / in any path with : inside of the AFM.pm? If I do that I'l
>also have to change the regex parts that truncate the / etc.
The Right Way to do portable paths in Perl these days is with File::Spec.
use File::Spec::Functions;
mkpath(catdir(curdir(), qw(test anotherdir bob)), 0, 0777) or die $!;
As for identifying pieces of a path, File::Basename is usually the way to
go. I don't know enough about what you are doing in Font::AFM to know.
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:58:19 -0500
From: Greenblatt & Seay <g-s@navix.net>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] sendmail.pl
>Can someone send me a copy of sendmail.pl ?
Check out http://www.sendmail.org/
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:20:55 +0100
From: Chris Sansom <chris@highway57.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [MacPerl] What are MacPerl's capabilities
At 09:40 -0500 7/4/99, Robert Pollard wrote:
>I have looked at MacPerl and read the manual to a point. I am impressed
>so far but I have a couple of questions:
>1) How far can MacPerl go in allowing me to use the Mac Toolbox to do
>things like display a window with the ability to enter into fields any
>information I want and store it in a database of my own design?
>2) If so, does MacPerl hide the Mac Toolbox enough that I don't have to
>be a C/C++ programmer to use it?
>3) What resource is their for understanding the OO portion of MacPerl.
>
>I don't want to buy books and programming tools for MacPerl unless it
>will meet my needs. Currently I work with 4th Dimension and Oracle. I
>would like to have an alternative to 4D for developing front ends.
I've read the various replies so far to this, and I feel I should perhaps
throw in what on this list may seem a highly sacrilegious contribution!
I'm hardly a world expert in MacPerl - I use it for developing CGI scripts
that I later upload to a Unix server, so I don't have much use for or
experience of the 'front end' side of it. From what I've seen of it,
though, I would tend to agree with the folks who have said 'a bit easier
than C/C++... but not much'.
Now, here's the sacrilegious part: if you really want something that hides
the toolbox and lets you build a front end in your sleep... <takes cover>
try REALbasic! It's sort of a Mac equivalent of the dark side's Visual
Basic only, from all I can tell, better and more consistent. It's still
fairly new, and constantly under development - you can find out a certain
amount about it (and download a demo) at http://www.realsoftware.com,
though it's not the most informative of web sites. I know there was a plan
for a REALbasic Pro with specialised database capabilities, but
suspiciously there doesn't seem to be any mention of it on the site. BTW,
they also seem to be involved in 4D development, so maybe Robert should
check it out!
(I don't have anything to do with Real software, BTW - just a copy of
REALbasic on my hard disk waiting for me to get stuck into a major project
whenever I can find the damn time!)
Cheers ... Chris
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