Well, working on this some more I came up with a solution of my own that I thought might work. Set a timeout (this probably occurred to you all already, but my mail from this list comes slowly so I can't be sure =) on the send and recieve requests- wait for a second for one, and if it doesn't come wait for a second for the other. If that hasn't sent anything, go back and wait for the first, etc. Well, I've got a problem. I took this example right from the documentation, and modified it only slightly: eval { local $SIG{ALRM} = sub { die "alarm\n" }; # NB \n required alarm 5; # Edited: changed to 5 <STDIN>; # Edited: variable time to wait, so alarms # can be triggered or not print alarm 0 . "\n"; # Print out value of alarm as it's set to 0 }; die if $@ && $@ ne "alarm\n"; # propagate errors if ($@) { print "Timed out.\n"; }else { print "Didn't time out.\n"; } Here's the catch, my output: 71582784 Didn't time out. 71582784 Didn't time out. # alarm ...propagated. File 'Corinth:Desktop Folder:Alarm Test'; Line 7 71582783 Didn't time out. 71582783 Didn't time out. 71582783 Didn't time out. 71582783 Didn't time out. For the first two, I hit enter before my time ran out. After that I let the time run down, and the alarm was tripped. Then, upon rerunning the script (remember that it had finished, but I hadn't quit yet), I found that even when I didn't allow the alarm to time out the immidiate output was the two lines that are repeated, one for every enter I hit. If I quit macperl and open it again, the alarms work until they time out. I could speculate as to why this doesn't work, but I'm hoping someone on the list knows why so that I don't have to look like a fool being wrong. ;) If there's another way of doing this (short of writing another program to fake the alarm with applescript or something- I'd like a perl-only solution if it's possible) please let me know. Thanks! - strider -- Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. 2 Corinthians 4:16, 17 | --+-- | | ===== Want to unsubscribe from this list? ===== Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to macperl-request@macperl.org