Having utterly failed to crack Schwern's conundrum, the only thing to do is pose one of my own, this one evaluating to an IMHO more familiar quotation: fork ? exit : POSIX::setsid && (grep { $_ eq ref } @ARGV)[-1] Usual fluffery about artistic license, yadda yadda. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies ==== Want to unsubscribe from Fun With Perl? Well, if you insist... ==== Send email to <fwp-request@technofile.org> with message _body_ ==== unsubscribe