At 11:29 +0000 08/20/1999, Richard K. Moore wrote: >Are you suggesting that the term 'hash', or its functionality, originated >with Perl? I don't know if any _language before Perl had hashes built in, >but hashes, by that name, have been in use at least since 1962, >particularly in compiler work. No. (I have received private email stressing that my answer could easily be misinterpreted :( I am suggesting that the term "hash" when used in this context[1] as a term meaning what is otherwise called an "associative array", is uniquely Perlish. The word hash has been around a long time. The hash table has been around a long time. Perl hashes _just so happen_ to be implemented as hash tables. That's the underlying data structure and a good reason for the name. But an associative array is not itself hash table. That's implementation (in this case, it's C). Perl calls these hashes because: 1) they are disordered 2) Larry preferred the term "hash" to "associative array" 3) coincidentally, the internal implementation is a hash table Coincidence (and probably design, too, but not equivalence). Read the Camel :-) Associative arrays are not unique to Perl either. Awk has them. I'm sure something else does. If awk has them they were invented sometime before 1983. However, I don't _know of_ another language that uses the term "hash" to refer to the particular type of "list" which is (in other languages) called an "associative array". Thus my statement that >The hash part is Perl... > >'Populate' is particularly appropriate to hashes... elements are referred >to by name just like people are. cute. But I sincerely doubt that's why they used the word ... :-) Although that could be why the database folks chose it... [1] The English grammar definition of "context" not the Perl definition -- -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Vicki Brown <vlb@cfcl.com> ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ Journeyman Sourceror: Scripts & Philtres |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' P.O. Box 1269 San Bruno CA 94066 '---''(_/--' `-'\_) http://www.cfcl.com/~vlb http://www.macperl.com ==== Want to unsubscribe from this list? ==== Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to macperl-forum-request@macperl.org