I just installed the latest MPW, which requires StdCLib Init 3.4.1. Unfortunately, then new StdCLib appears to kill native MacPerl 4.1.8 app (the MPW tool seems to work, as does the emulated 68K MacPerl). To crash MacPerl app, I just have to install StdCLib Init 3.4.1, run native MacPerl and open a new window, enter "print 'foo';" and <cmd>-<shift>-R to run it. It dies with a bus error (reading from address DEADBEEF) with a stack crawl like this: run_perl str_gets _filbuf _filbuf ioctl I also see something else weird with MacPerl app -- when I run it and pull down the "Script" menu, it has "i" (the Spanish punctuation mark) instead of the command symbol in the menu. If I do an "About MacPerl..." then pull down the "Script" menu again, the command key symbol is correct! This doesn't last forever, though -- it will revert to the "i" soon after. This happens in both the emulated and native MacPerl apps on my system, but not on others. No other app has a problem displaying the command key symbol on my machine. Any ideas? dm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Boy, you have to be a machine to operate this machine." - T. Servo pub 768/3311B6FD 1995/02/17 Doyle B. Myers <doyle@wrq.com> Key fingerprint = 6E 24 E8 AD 9A 5C C8 98 BC C2 CE 10 E4 43 5E F7