OK, if that's the best way, mail it to me. But what I really want is your web version of it, preferably with a place to add comments. Since you got it to work, would you be willing to spend an hour to put the result on some web page and add some comments about what you learned in the process? If you send me a copy of that, I'll be happy to post it for you in case that part is hard. I have my example documented perl program at http://www/ucsf.edu/~lstowner/reload.html Please let me know whether you can make any sense of mine, if you look. Dick Karpinski dick@itsa.ucsf.edu http://www.ucsf.edu/~dick