According to http://perl.com/perl/wwwman/libwww/lib/HTTP/Date.html >SYNOPSIS > > use HTTP::Date; > > $stringGMT = time2str(time); # Format as GMT ascii time > $time = str2time($stringGMT); # convert ascii date to machine time So I tried: use HTTP::Date; $time = time; my $stringGMT = time2str($time); $nutime = str2time($stringGMT) || die "failed on $stringGMT\n"; print "$stringGMT $time/$nutime\n"; and got... # failed on Wed, 13 Mar 1996 01:24:54 GMT This is with MacPerl507rlm and libwww-perl-5b7, both right out of the box. I probably didn't install libwww correctly.... perl Makefile.PL make make test make install is a stone bitch to do on a mac ;-) Is the problem that I should be digging around for a libwww for MacPerl5??? -- Brad Cox; bcox@gmu.edu; GMU Pgm on Social and Organizational Learning (703) 968-8229 Fax (703) 934 1578; Web http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon The Middle of Nowhere Web, a project with paradoxical goals