In Regards to your letter <199604241556.RAA13758@yggdrasil.ethz.ch>: > If you need to perform other operations on the file, it's probably > easiest to use the value of $. after processing the file. Otherwise, > do something like: > > undef $/; > > $f = <>; > > $count = ($f =~ tr/\n//); Or: @f = <>; $count = $#f + 1; tim. time@ice.com (UUCP: heifetz!tbomb!time) USENET - a slow moving self parody... ph