it is not overkill! you guys are great - (again perl goes with generous and creative folk) - so if i am expecting an international audience, how do i handle the various time zones? or is a guestbook only expected to track local time? (the logisitics are starting to get strange now that i think about it - i am making this guestbook for a server that is in another country) i assume PST below is west coast time usa >I just made the following subroutine: >#### >################################################################### >#return a current date stamp such as: "Tue, 09 Jan 96 5:06pm PST" # >################################################################### >sub dateStamp { <snip> > "$theWeekday, $monthday $theMonth $year $hour:$theMins$ampm PST"; >} <snip> > >its maybe overkill, but it gives a nice date stamp. >kenn > and john springer said >I use this... > >sub start{ >local($wday,$yday,$isdst); #don't need these > ($sec,$min,$hour,$mday,$mon,$year,$wday,$yday,$isdst) = >localtime(time);