>[This whole discussion is not quite on topic for this mailing list, but > it is about an issue vital to Perl itself.] >Furthermore, the poor huddled masses yearning to learn Perl5 want a new >Camel *now*. Any changes which might further push back the delivery date >are bound to be unpopular. *I absolutely agree with this.* Given the choice of pushing back the book or having 800 pages I will grit my teeth and accept the 800 pages. But I still can't agree that an 800-pager is easy to use. For me, it's not. (There is a large difference between "I _can_ use this" and "I _would want_ to use this"). Your mileage may vary :-) Vicki Brown vlb@cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/cfcl/vlb P.O. Box 1269 San Bruno CA 94066 Ooit'n Normaal Mens Ontmoet? En... Beviel't? (Ever met a normal person? So... did you like it?)