Please forgive me if this seems a bit basic for the list members, but you are all I have. I downloaded CGI.pm and useing fetch I uploaded it and tryit.cgi to the UNIX server. Fetch has a number of options (text, wrapped text, MacBinary II, Raw Data, Binhex, AppleSingle). I hope text was the correct format. As per my ISPs instructions I put the CGI.pm and the tryit.cgi in the usr/home/username/public_html/cgi_bin directory. I then went to my browser and tried to open the http://www.navnet.net/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/username/tryit.cgi and got a number of errors. Somehow I think that I uploaded it in the wrong format or I have to change the first line of the script to reflect the non standard cgi location. If you want to check out my ISPs instructions on CGIs go to http://www.navnet.net/nwcgiwrap.html I created a duplicate of the tryit.cgi and renamed it try_it.cgi changed the path to CGI.pm by changing the first 2 lines of the script to: use lib '/usr/home/bobc/public_html/cgi-bin'; use CGI ; I then ran the script with the "cgiwrapd" to generate errors and got this error Redirecting STDERR to STDOUT Environment Variables: QUERY_STRING: '' SCRIPT_NAME: '/cgi-bin/cgiwrapd' PATH_INFO: '/bobc/try_it.cgi' PATH_TRANSLATED: '/var/www/docs/bobc/try_it.cgi' REMOTE_USER: '<NULL>' REMOTE_HOST: 'p2s0.navnet.net' REMOTE_ADDR: '204.50.177.60' Trying to extract user from PATH_INFO. Retrieved User Name 'bobc' User Data Retrieved: UserID: 'bobc' UID: '706' GID: '84' Home Dir: '/usr/home/bobc' Script Base Directory '/usr/home/bobc/public_html/cgi-bin' Trying to extract script from PATH_INFO Script Name 'try_it.cgi' Script Path '/usr/home/bobc/public_html/cgi-bin/try_it.cgi' Fixing Environment Variables. Environment Variables: QUERY_STRING: '' SCRIPT_NAME: '/cgi-bin/cgiwrapd/bobc/try_it.cgi' PATH_INFO: '' PATH_TRANSLATED: '' REMOTE_USER: '<NULL>' REMOTE_HOST: 'p2s0.navnet.net' REMOTE_ADDR: '204.50.177.60' Logging Request (syslog) UIDs/GIDs Changed To: RUID: '706' EUID: '706' RGID: '84' EGID: '84' Changing Current Directory to '/usr/home/bobc/public_html/cgi-bin' CGIwrap Error: Script is not executable. Issue chmod 755 /usr/home/bobc/public_html/cgi-bin/try_it.cgi sorry for all the info but I guess too much is better than too little. thanks in advance Bob Callaghan ************************************************************************ *** The nice thing about going to a Drive In, If you *** *** didn't like the movie you can always slash the seats! *** ************************************************************************