>I just got MPW with Toolserver and am >curious how others on the list are using them with MacPerl. IMHO Apple made a mistake by not including MPW as a fundamental part of its operating system. Entirely too much time was spent hiding the internals of the Macintosh from "the rest of us." A whole legion of users thinks that there is no "DOS" command line interpreter for the Mac. False. It's just that Apple tries to keep it a secret. You really can send an AppleEvent to Finder and tell it to quit. It will oblige, releasing its memory, while you run the entire OS from MPW. For Perl, which really needs command line arguments to be flexible, there is no better way to go. Do all of the filename parsing with MPW scripts and then let Perl do the work IT does best. I still haven't figured out how to drag and drop a half dozen files onto a MacPerl Droplet and get them in the right order and there is absolutely no way to use dash type options without MPW. MPW has real environment variables which you can define and export. I still find that most of the simpler things I need to do can be done with MPW scripts more quickly than with Perl. Searching fles for patterns, merging files, backups, global replacements in files, and the like are all supported by MPW. One thing that will bother UNIX trained folks is the heavy use of the 8 bit extensions to ASCII - the option-key - characters. You do have to learn yet another syntax for regular expressions which won't transfer to a 7 bit environment. But then you don't have to escape so much. MPW's editor which is always present allows you to select any text in any window and enter it as a command. There are no editing features like "bring back the last command for editing." You just use the mouse. There is no word wrapping and that may bother you, but you can always prepare a script to do that kind of thing. The latest version of MPW uses color in the editor to highlight reserved words and comments and yes, you can declare a file to be type PERL and MPW will pick out the right words. -> From the USA. The only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <- ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch