So if I just reboot it should flush out the STDLOG file. Correct? I tried doing an ES and an EA before just having to reboot. Maybe that's why it put a blank STDLOG file out there. Also, the RB command just made Macsbug say that the error was now in Macsbug (after trying ES and EA that is). ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch