After this topic started I did some research. I started where a lot of folks would - at the O'Reilly site. No shortage of mentions for the Mac here: first page (fairly prominently), where it's been for quite a while, on the "latest versions" page, where Mac is only one of three OS's to be mentioned by name etc. At CPAN, the Mac neither receives better or worse treatment than any other OS, in terms of publicity. It's _there_, in the /ports directory, and what more can you ask for? The page describing the perl5-porters mailing list also mentions the Mac port, and describes its status accurately. So maybe I'm missing something here? As far as "building out of the box", I agree with many, but I particularly agree with what Jeff Clites had to say. Just because the people using UNIX have to thrash around with Makes, Configures and Installs doesn't mean that people using MacOS or Windows, or really, practically any of the other OS's, should have to. Seriously, I looked at the README's for some of these other ports - VMS at 14 pages, OS/2 like systems at 27 pages, Win32 with Win C++ compilers like Borland's, 11 pages. Caveats and Notes galore. I mean, why not just provide the finished product for the poor stiff out there who just wants to play with examples in LEARNING PERL? On a final note, as soon as I saw the prerequisite for Amiga (supposedly "built out of the box"), namely that you must have the UNIX emulator, my first reaction was "Is that right, now?" :-) ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch