Continuing on the off-topic... Well, the audience for AS and MacPerl overlaps a lot, at least, until AE scripting in MacPerl gets easy enough to drop AS altogether. I'll try to keep it brief. On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:43:08 -0500, Jefferson R. Lowrey wrote: >>1. In trying to be like a natural language, it's got innumerable >> ways of stating every little thing. Which variants are usable at a >> given time varies considerably. > >And, what >exactly is wrong with "There's more than one way to do it"? Because not all do indeed work. If Perl worked this way, we would be *very* irritated. Example: tell application "QuarkXPress" tell document 1 tell picture box 1 tell image 1 set name to "box name" end tell end tell end tell end tell This SHOULD be equivalent to: tell application "QuarkXPress" tell document 1 tell picture box 1 set name of image 1 to "box name" end tell end tell end tell ...and I'm sure you can see all variations that can be made of this :-). Unfortunately, only one will work. In fact, most variants will NOT work. It looks like the statements effectively send different Apple Event sequences, and the app doesn't recognize them all. It's up to you, the scripter, to test tens of "equivalent" code snippets, until you find one that actually works. Well... I find that an irritating "feature". Another example is the text manipulation facilities, in which Perl really excels. Two examples: A) Simply try to get rid of the very first character in a string of text. The only way I could find, that works, is to convert the whole string to a list of characters ("every character"), take the appropriate slice, and turn the list into text again. Talk about inefficient. And, you have to clear Applescript's text item delimiters first, or you'll get a lot of junk inbetween. B) Search through a string, for a substring. All that AS provides is some sort of "instr" that says either "yes" or "no". No way it will tell you WHERE it found the substring. Idem with searching through a list: AS can tell you it found a particular item in a list, but again, not at what position. I better stop now. :-) Bart. ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch