Yes, I have tried a form feed and it didn't work for me. There are some very simple routines you can write which will help you to emulate a screen movement. I did them years ago in college when I wanted to emulate a graphics terminal on the old LSIs, ADDs, and others. They are not fast, but they get the job done. And there is no big secret to what they are. They're just things like the drawing routines to move to a given location, draw a string at a given location, etc.... So now you are probably wondering why you'd want to re-write these routines? The answer is so you can keep track of what you are doing on the page. Just a thought. PS: Have you tried using copyrect to make it look like everything has scrolled up or down on the page? You do a copyrect to move everything up one line and then draw the next line in at the bottom. Or to move up you just copy everything down one line and then draw the first line again. Simple scrolling technique. :-) ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch