On Fri, 4 Dec 1998, Vicki Brown wrote: > Bloat? Maybe. Extreme? Sadly, not in today's world. My reference to bloat was that if multiple MacPerl-based programs each put their own 11 MB copy of MacPerl invisibly somewhere (in addition to any code and data they used), THAT would be bloat. As you point out, 11 MB is pretty trim these days for such rollicking functionality. ><I wrote:> > > large folder of stuff I need, so I'll hide it from you. How would you > > feel if Microsoft did this with all the schmack they install? All of a > > sudden, disk space disappears and can't be accounted for. > > How do you know they don't? Because I look for invisible files on my machine every now and then. Again, I don't have too much problem with invisible files, though I think they should be used sparingly. Invisible folders seem unnecessary to me, except in rare circumstances. Invisibility seems to me to be security by obscurity (pardon me for all the -ee sounds in this phrase). This is poor security. Probably won't work long against maliciousness or deliberate meddling, isn't necessary and may be counter-productive against innocent meddling. An example: two people co-use a Mac. One is extremely anal about freeing disk space; every night he cleans off every file which is not immediately critical. He likes to keep his hard drive roughly half full. The other has a few Perl programs which she uses to summarize data and perform useful tasks. Should she use the invisible install? At first glance, it might seem so. But what if he reads how to use Find File to show every invisible folder? He will be doubly angry. Or maybe his anality even extends to adding up folder sizes to see which has the most "fat" to be cut (those of us in SubGigLand do this in a space- and cash-pinch). At any rate, she should probably discuss with him why this piece was necessary. If he deletes it anyway, the invisibility bit might buy a little time. But a removable drive would do much better. Tune in tomorrow to the next episode of the Larry Wall Show, where cross platform coders trade blows on who has the best Perl implementation. Good grief, I really don't have a life. :) -- MattLangford