Re: [MacPerl] Banner List

[Brian McNett <webmaster@mycoinfo.com>]

Rich Morin <rdm@cfcl.com> wrote:

>In any case, this is beside the point.  In order to display
>the banner, one only needs to use MacPerl in _some_ manner.
>Using it as part of a web server is a plausible inference,
>but not generally true of the banner sites.

*I* use a Mac as a webserver, so I'm a little miffed at Bart's statement. 
 Of course, I don't use MacPerl on said webserver.  I have Mac-specific 
tools to serve dynamic pages. Maxum's NetCloak Pro, which does a whole 
lot more than allow dynamic web-pages and forms processing, Filemaker 
Pro, and Lasso are quite popular, and my provider makes them available.  
My web-host (we're on a virtual domain server) Digital.Forest, is one of 
the OLDEST Mac-only web providers.  Founder Chris Kilborn is "DA MAN"!

I'm not alone here.  Adam Engst hosts his TidBITS newsletter on Macs
<http://www.tidbits.com/> (in fact, TidBITS just moved in next door to us 
over at DF (just outside gorgeous Bothell, WA (many miles from where I 
live and work, actually))).

Alas, I also have a business partner who's paranoid about advertising to 
the world just what software we use.  I've tried to straighten him out on 
the issue, but he won't let me fly the MacPerl banner (grumph!)

MacPerl powers my back-end.  I run updated in BBEdit which call MacPerl 
scripts.  MacPerl::Glue drives Macjordomo to poll it's POP3 acounts at 
regular intervals, I'm working on MacPerl scripts which automagically 
update the external Javascript files behind Mycoinfo's newsfader (I 
helped debug version 3.0 of the fader so that it works right in ALL 4.0 
and later browsers on the Mac (no mean feat)!)

Source for the newsfader is available: 
http://webreference.com/dhtml/column27/

I'm doing XML in MacPerl.

I'm hoping the MacPerl 5.6 will be suitable for placing on a server. 
POSIX pthreads will be a godsend in this respect.  However, until 
Mycoinfo gets off the virtual domain and onto a colocated server (We're 
looking for private investors. Please send huge wads of cash to Mycoinfo, 
P.O. Box.... ;-)).

In short, my point is that MANY people use MacPerl, and MANY people run 
Mac-based webservers, but the intersection of those two sets is small.  
Thus the number of people who can advertise  on the web that they use 
MacPerl isn't a reflection of who, or how widely its used.
Apple uses MacPerl extensively.  Why don't THEY fly the MacPerl banner?  
Simple: MacPerl isn't THEIR product! They can't play favorites and keep 
on the good graces of all the things which compete with products they 
use.  However, take a look at HeaderDoc.  Tell me that's not a very 
public use of MacPerl?  CarbonDater anyone?

Perhaps we need a way to indicate who's using MacPerl without requiring 
the banner.  The banner is nice.  I support using the banner. I'd use it 
on my site were I allowed (I may yet sneak it in (I've been known to work 
an end-around on Phil when he's not looking)). Perhaps a webpage on the 
MacPerl site with a list of individuals and corporations which use 
MacPerl, regardess of whether they fly the banner on their site.  It 
would provide a place for folks use MacPerl, but who, for various reasons 
CAN'T fly the banner.

--B


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