They are now available on http://www.apple.com/developer/, although you need a (free) developer account. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see someone bundle up the GNU/BSD tools separately from the site, since Apple can't legally restrict their redistribution. -- Chris Nandor pudge@pobox.com http://pudge.net/ Open Source Development Network pudge@osdn.com http://osdn.com/ # ===== Want to unsubscribe from this list? # ===== Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to macperl-request@macperl.org