Hmmm, Sat down last night and tried to open a socket to a remote machine. ( I am using the 68k perl tool+freePPP+OT 1.1.1). Not have a "fork" presents some difficulties :). Basically I decided to send a "GET /<cr><lf> to some machines running web stuff and grab the home page. The code looked something like this: $iaddr=inet_aton($remote); $paddr=sockaddr_in($port,$iaddr); $proto=getprotobyname('tcp'); socket(SOCK,PF_INET,SOCK_STREAM,$proto) or die "socket: $!"; connect(SOCK,$paddr) or die "connect: $!"; select(SOCK); $|=1; select(STDOUT); #print "-->"; $line=<STDIN>; $line = $line ."\n"; $line="GET /\n\012"; print SOCK $line; $i=1; while($line=<SOCK>) { print $i++, $line, "\n"; } close(SOCK); Much to my surprise I only got back 1 long line, it looks like all of the <cr>'s where eaten , there was an "empty" box where the lines where supposed to end.(I assume it was the line feed.) Telneting to the port with a terminal program with "show control characters" enabled showed that each line was terminated with a <cr><lf> pair. Does this make any sense? Does command buffering ($|=1) make sense in the Mac environment. Does anyone out there have any MacPerl socket code that talks to a Unix Box. Would "threads" be a way that MacPerl could give an illusion of multithreading? (I thought I read that the MacOS now contained a thread package... --Jerry levan@eagle.eku.edu