In article <v04020a01b2a189c7178e@[192.168.0.77]>, pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor) wrote: >It is a POSIX environment for Mac OS. Comes with all sorts of Unix tools. If you accept MachTen as a commercial "basis OS", then you will have all sorts of Open Source languages available - MachTen is a BSD-Unix based on a Mach kernel (much like Rhapsody). And it is possible to write standard Mac programs with MachTen (for example using GNAT, the GNU Ada Translator, combined with a Mac framework to produce standalone Mac programs). Can you tell it just happened that I made myself the upgrade from Codebuilder to MachTen as a christmas present? ;-) BTW: an old gcc port for MPW is available somewhere on the Cygnus ftp site. But it really is an old port and I don't know if it exists for PPC or only for 68k. There are some other freeware languages for the Mac, for example Clean, a pure functional language with some similarities to Haskell. But it's not Open Source. Open Source languages that I can add: Moscow ML is Open Source and quite good integrated. There is an Icon version for the MPW, and Pro Icon is freeware nowadays. MacGambit is a Open Source Scheme compiler for 68K machines, GambitC is available as a Codewarrior plugin (and is Open Source, too). Then there is Help, a lazy Scheme implementation for 68K Macs (based on MacGambit). There is a free compiler FAQ, where you can find some more. Above list is out of my head, so there _must_ be more, I just don't remember them. bye, Georg -- http://www.westfalen.de/hugo/ ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch