use Time::localtime; $reallyWhen = localtime->mon(); print $reallyWhen; please, tell me that there is something wrong. this is nuts. I get "11" as the result. as it is with use Time::localtime; $reallyWhen = localtime->mon(); printf "the month is %d", $reallyWhen; sys 8.5.1 ps. I'd LOVE it to be really november, but..... ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch