Just thought I'd ask, because there's a reasonably strong presence here of people running servers just for testing CGI and the like. I had NetPresenz up and running a few months back. As I recall the setup was pretty brainless, which is why now I'm mystified that I can't get a loopback going over MacIP. I believe I have checked everything - the TCP settings, AppleTalk on, Users and Groups, file sharing, permissions, NetPresenz Setup, etc etc. By now, I've gone through most every permutation anyhow. All I get is OT error -3213. Since this particular error evidently isn't important, it's left out in the OT docs error listing. I also found out yesterday, inadvertently, that it's not like NetPresenz is dead - when I left the active TCP to PPP for my ISP, NetPresenz did start the dial process. I would dearly like to find out what -3213 means. NetPresenz was doing very well as a server for testing a variety of MacPerl scripts, and I'd like to restore it to health. TIA, Arved ***** Want to unsubscribe from this list? ***** Send mail with body "unsubscribe" to mac-perl-request@iis.ee.ethz.ch