You might have thought this subject was dead, but these CD ROMS keep throwing up unusual features! On the cover disk of The MAC March 96 there is a curious file (in the Demos:Bookends Pro 3.2 Demo folder) called Shapiro, Neil L which "get info" reveals to be a document of size zero K. This file also fools my recursive dir scripts (and &find) because, apparently, it appears to be a folder. I am beginning to wonder if I am going to have to use a hash or array to keep track of all directories previously visited, and avoid infinite loops that way? Joel Feinstein Nottingham, England