Hi guys, I am despairing of finding an answer to this one so I thought I would ask the gurus on this list. It isn't terribly Mac-specific, but there seem to be some Really Knowledgeable Guys out there, so I'm hoping at least one of them can help me out. Thanks. I'm trying to write a client-server front-end for some database manipulations in Perl. The server listens on a specific TCP/IP port, fork()s children to handle connections, bla bla bla. I ripped off the source from the Camel book. Two problems: 1) I gave up trying to write a client in Perl that would read from the socket character-by-character. Perl seems bent on reading at least a line at a time. I finally gave up and am using a Telnet client to talk to my server, only this means I have to do some funky control character filtering. Is there a better way? Before you ask, *yes*, I really do want to do char-by-char reading and writing; I want to be able to send a prompt line "login> " and have the client print it so the user can input on the same line. Is this really so hard to do? The Camel book says that $/ is the input record seperator. I was all ready to set this to null, but that is documented as meaning "no record separator is matched, and <FILEHANDLE> will read everything to the end of the current file". This is bad. 2) I know I can do 'system "stty -echo"' on UNIX boxes to turn off echoing on the terminal. How can I control this on a socket? If I had my own client, I would send it a special character sequence to tell it to turn off echoing, but see 1). If 1) is impossible, does someone have code for sending the Telnet disable-echo option command? I want to do 2) because I prompt for a username and password first thing so I can log who uses the server. I would rather the password not appear on the console, but that's what's happening now. Any help appreciated. I'm sick of staring at RFCs and Perl pages. Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mark A. Aiken Macintosh wizard and shareware author| | Undergrad, McGill U, Mtl, CANADA marka@kagi.com / marka@ee.mcgill.ca | | WWW site of Macintosh shareware at http://www.kagi.com/authors/marka | | General WWW home page at http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~marka | -------------------------------------------------------------------------